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The Tatmadaw (Burmese: တပ်မတော်; MLCTS: tap ma. taw, IPA: [taʔmədɔ̀], lit. Armed Forces) is the official name of the armed forces of Myanmar (Burma). It is administered by the Ministry of Defence and composed of the Army, the Navy and the Air Force. Auxiliary services include the Myanmar Police Force, the People's Militia Units and until 2013 the Frontier Forces, locally known as Na Sa Kha.

According to the Constitution of Myanmar, the Tatmadaw directly reports to the National Defence and Security Council (NDSC) led by the President of Myanmar. The NDSC is an eleven-member National Security Council responsible for security and defence affairs in Myanmar. The NDSC serves as the highest authority in the Government of Myanmar.

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Five SoKo G-4 Super Galeb jet trainers operate out of Pathein AFB, a sixth jet crashed in Oct 2017. Myanmar is looking to employ the JF-17's against the RTAF which means they will most certainly employ Su-30 in the Bay of Bengal.

https://www.irrawaddy.com/news/burma/two-pilots-missing-military-training-jet-confirmed-dead.html

 

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Any ideas about the actual combat capabilities of the Myanmar armed forces beyond their own borders? Surely the regime must know that they can't wage all out war against Bangladesh.

It will cripple their already limping economy, create a power vacuum for the secessionists to exploit, damage their inexistent international reputation. 

Lastly, do they even have the manpower pool to carryout a long term war? Seeing as Bangladesh has 160M+ population, our manpower pool must looms large over them. Our ethnic homogeneity and intense love for the motherland's hard fought sovereignty will surely be something the genocidal regime will have to think about before trying anything.

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1 hour ago, AntiDalal said:

Any ideas about the actual combat capabilities of the Myanmar armed forces beyond their own borders? Surely the regime must know that they can't wage all out war against Bangladesh.

It will cripple their already limping economy, create a power vacuum for the secessionists to exploit, damage their inexistent international reputation. 

Lastly, do they even have the manpower pool to carryout a long term war? Seeing as Bangladesh has 160M+ population, our manpower pool must looms large over them. Our ethnic homogeneity and intense love for the motherland's hard fought sovereignty will surely be something the genocidal regime will have to think about before trying anything.

Aside from occasional separated incidents of provocations in the border and the usual internet fights, Myanmar itself is not interested in starting a war with any of its neighbors unless they are backed into a corner. Their current strategy from the looks of their procurement pattern lies around dealing with the various large separatist armies spread all over their country while putting up enough of a presence to deter any potential first strikes by an enemy. Given that Bangladeshi policy of not being the nation that would start a war never changed under any political party, I don't see Bangladesh to be the country that would fire the first shots either.

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17 hours ago, AntiDalal said:

Any ideas about the actual combat capabilities of the Myanmar armed forces beyond their own borders? Surely the regime must know that they can't wage all out war against Bangladesh.

It will cripple their already limping economy, create a power vacuum for the secessionists to exploit, damage their inexistent international reputation. 

Lastly, do they even have the manpower pool to carryout a long term war? Seeing as Bangladesh has 160M+ population, our manpower pool must looms large over them. Our ethnic homogeneity and intense love for the motherland's hard fought sovereignty will surely be something the genocidal regime will have to think about before trying anything.

If non Muslim Burmese ethnic minorities can be used by our intelligence agencies to keep Burma busy then why should we have to engage in war ourselves?

 

I'm not saying we are doing it but we've a large potential to do so.

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4 minutes ago, Professor Chanakya said:

If non Muslim Burmese ethnic minorities can be used by our intelligence agencies to keep Burma busy then why should we have to engage in war ourselves?

 

I'm not saying we are doing it but we've a large potential to do so.

For strategic reasons we ought to help the secessionists groups in Myanmar, discreetly of course. Remember the Burmese helped the CHT rebels during the 90s.

Myanmar as a country is doomed to fail because of multiple ethnicities and tribes or whatever they are.

Once Myanmar is out of the equation, BD can finally ease out a bit and start fencing the border with India. 

It's already happening and it'll only start getting worse, Indians jumping the border to get into Bangladesh to benefit from the economic boom.

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6 minutes ago, Salted Cola said:

For strategic reasons we ought to help the secessionists groups in Myanmar, discreetly of course. Remember the Burmese helped the CHT rebels during the 90s.

Myanmar as a country is doomed to fail because of multiple ethnicities and tribes or whatever they are.

Once Myanmar is out of the equation, BD can finally ease out a bit and start fencing the border with India. 

It's already happening and it'll only start getting worse, Indians jumping the border to get into Bangladesh to benefit from the economic boom.

I'm all for helping Burmese groups as long as they not Muslim. Radicalization of Muslims will have a spill over into Bangladesh that we should strictly avoid. Moreover, so called islamic terrorism game will emerge and things will get out of our control.

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1 minute ago, Professor Chanakya said:

I'm all for helping Burmese groups as long as they not Muslim. Radicalization of Muslims will have a spill over into Bangladesh that we should strictly avoid. Moreover, so called islamic terrorism game will emerge and things will get out of our control.

Didn't know there more Burmese Muslim groups besides the Rohingya. 

The only solution for the rohingya is have them repatriated and given a strong foothold in the border regions. It helps to have allies on the other side of the border, no need to arm though.

 

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The vessel has a length of about 122 meters, a width of 22 meters for a total displacement of 11,300 tons. The vessel has an endurance of 30 days at sea and a range of 8,600 nautical miles. It is now the largest vessels in the Myanmar Navy fleet.

As any LPD, the Moattama is designed for amphibious operations, transportation of personnel as well as disaster relief and humanitarian assistance. It has a well deck and two helicopter spots + hangar.

The introduction of LPD capability may give the Myanmar Navy a new force projection capability along with Kilo-class submarine that might be problematic for Bangladesh Navy itself.

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12 hours ago, Salted Cola said:

Didn't know there more Burmese Muslim groups besides the Rohingya. 

The only solution for the rohingya is have them repatriated and given a strong foothold in the border regions. It helps to have allies on the other side of the border, no need to arm though.

 

Ya rohingyas(both refugees and ones living in Myanmar) combined do not even make the majority of the muslims living in Myanmar

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10 hours ago, Amit Sahani said:

The vessel has a length of about 122 meters, a width of 22 meters for a total displacement of 11,300 tons. The vessel has an endurance of 30 days at sea and a range of 8,600 nautical miles. It is now the largest vessels in the Myanmar Navy fleet.

As any LPD, the Moattama is designed for amphibious operations, transportation of personnel as well as disaster relief and humanitarian assistance. It has a well deck and two helicopter spots + hangar.

The introduction of LPD capability may give the Myanmar Navy a new force projection capability along with Kilo-class submarine that might be problematic for Bangladesh Navy itself.

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The lpd itself will not be an issue. The lack of self defense equipment as well as the lack of mountings for future weapon upgrades suggest that they ordered this with dealing with internal conflicts in mind. The ship itself was ordered from a civilian yard

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11 hours ago, Amit Sahani said:

The vessel has a length of about 122 meters, a width of 22 meters for a total displacement of 11,300 tons. The vessel has an endurance of 30 days at sea and a range of 8,600 nautical miles. It is now the largest vessels in the Myanmar Navy fleet.

As any LPD, the Moattama is designed for amphibious operations, transportation of personnel as well as disaster relief and humanitarian assistance. It has a well deck and two helicopter spots + hangar.

The introduction of LPD capability may give the Myanmar Navy a new force projection capability along with Kilo-class submarine that might be problematic for Bangladesh Navy itself.

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I have a feeling this ship is more of a statement vessel than anything. It's stupid to have so many assets in a vessel with minimal defensive capability. A well placed salvo in it means the loss of a dozen tanks, few hundred troops and two helis along with the ship itself.

 

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14 hours ago, Salted Cola said:

Didn't know there more Burmese Muslim groups besides the Rohingya. 

The only solution for the rohingya is have them repatriated and given a strong foothold in the border regions. It helps to have allies on the other side of the border, no need to arm though.

 

Yeah the Rohingyas need to be repatriated. This gives us a buffer between our borders that might ease tensions for us. Also, really need to be careful about radicalization as we might be a better target for them than the Burmese.

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On 1/25/2020 at 9:07 AM, AntiDalal said:

Any ideas about the actual combat capabilities of the Myanmar armed forces beyond their own borders? Surely the regime must know that they can't wage all out war against Bangladesh.

It will cripple their already limping economy, create a power vacuum for the secessionists to exploit, damage their inexistent international reputation. 

Lastly, do they even have the manpower pool to carryout a long term war? Seeing as Bangladesh has 160M+ population, our manpower pool must looms large over them. Our ethnic homogeneity and intense love for the motherland's hard fought sovereignty will surely be something the genocidal regime will have to think about before trying anything.

They have their hands full with the many separatist groups acting within their borders. They have to be pretty thick in the head to even imagine waging war with another country without fixing their internal matters first. It will be like waging war on multiple fronts and I'm sure the separatists will take advantage of that fact and try to occupy as much area as possible.

 

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On 1/25/2020 at 10:07 PM, AntiDalal said:

Any ideas about the actual combat capabilities of the Myanmar armed forces beyond their own borders? Surely the regime must know that they can't wage all out war against Bangladesh.

It will cripple their already limping economy, create a power vacuum for the secessionists to exploit, damage their inexistent international reputation. 

Lastly, do they even have the manpower pool to carryout a long term war? Seeing as Bangladesh has 160M+ population, our manpower pool must looms large over them. Our ethnic homogeneity and intense love for the motherland's hard fought sovereignty will surely be something the genocidal regime will have to think about before trying anything.

Only their air force could be a threat, other than that, they will be digging their grave in Bangladesh if they ever dare to come.

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10 minutes ago, Salahuddin said:

Only their air force could be a threat, other than that, they will be digging their grave in Bangladesh if they ever dare to come.

Their air force is very capable of crippling Cox bazaar, for now. We've got to hurry up with that Mrca procurement.

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There are only 3 MiG-29Bs and 1 MiG-29UB remaining in the country with the forming having actual BVR AAM firing capability. Bangladesh has not been this vulnerable since a very long time. If Myanmar wanted to attack they would have done so. The fact that they don't want a physical war with Bangladesh. They already succeeded in their plan to expel most of the Rohingya's out of their country. Their main threat is the rise of the Arakan Army.

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3 minutes ago, Asaf Khandekar said:

There are only 3 MiG-29Bs and 1 MiG-29UB remaining in the country with the forming having actual BVR AAM firing capability. Bangladesh has not been this vulnerable since a very long time. If Myanmar wanted to attack they would have done so. The fact that they don't want a physical war with Bangladesh. They already succeeded in their plan to expel most of the Rohingya's out of their country. Their main threat is the rise of the Arakan Army.

I agree but monkeys are getting a bit to adventurous and it only takes one trigger happy fool. 

They've already developed a thing for St Martin's Island.

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On 1/26/2020 at 7:38 AM, Professor Chanakya said:

I'm all for helping Burmese groups as long as they not Muslim. Radicalization of Muslims will have a spill over into Bangladesh that we should strictly avoid. Moreover, so called islamic terrorism game will emerge and things will get out of our control.

Yes lesson was learned from Pakistan but then again same strategy played by India was so successful ! 

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On 1/26/2020 at 1:43 PM, Salted Cola said:

Didn't know there more Burmese Muslim groups besides the Rohingya. 

The only solution for the rohingya is have them repatriated and given a strong foothold in the border regions. It helps to have allies on the other side of the border, no need to arm though.

 

There's an indigenous Burmese Muslim group other than Rohingya. They don't speak the distant cousin of Chatgaiya dialect but pure Burmese.

 

Best of luck getting Rohingyas into Burma and keeping them in without any protection.

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